Linked skill Dillema

[kai_jph]

Hi Guys

Just curious about this one

I made SF5's nash Stealth dash into Justice Shell or Justice Corridor with the following code at the end of Stealth dash ins the specials state file

[State 1461, Justice Shell]
type=ChangeState
triggerall= time>=8&&anim=1400&&p2dist x>=0
trigger1=!AILevel&&(command="a"|command="b"|comman d="c")
trigger2=AILevel&&(P2bodydist x<=50)&&(enemynear,statetype!=C)&&random<=550
value=1190

[State 1461, Justice Corridor]
type=ChangeState
triggerall= time>=8&&anim=1400&&p2dist x>=0
trigger1=!AILevel&&(command="x"|command="y"|comman d="z")
trigger2=AILevel&&(P2bodydist x<=50)&&(enemynear,statetype!=A)&&random<=550
value=1195

The AI in the .cmd file for Stealth dash is :

[State -1, Stealth Dash]
type=changestate
value=1461
triggerall = var(40)
triggerall= AILevel && numenemy
triggerall= roundstate=2 && statetype!=A
triggerall= p2bodydist x>=70 && (p2statetype!=L || p2stateno=5120)
trigger1= ctrl && P2movetype = A && (P2stateNo=[1000,1099])&& Random <100
trigger2= ctrl && (p2bodydist x=[70,200]) && Random<50

The prob is is it works 100% fine manually but the AI won't execute no matter what. To compensate I wrote code in the .cmd file's AI section for those 2 skills (Justice Corridor/Shell)

Did I do something wrong in the code above?

[Moldredd]

[State -1, Stealth Dash]
type=changestate
value=1461
triggerall = var(40)
triggerall= AILevel && numenemy
triggerall= roundstate=2 && statetype!=A
triggerall= p2bodydist x>=70 && (p2statetype!=L || p2stateno=5120)
trigger1= ctrl && P2movetype = A && (P2stateNo=[1000,1099])&& Random <100
trigger2= ctrl && (p2bodydist x=[70,200]) && Random<50


-Unless he has control during states 1000-1099 he will never execute trigger1
-Can you give me the purpose of that variable? Is it an A.I. check?
-Low chances of A.I. execution intended? You could also validate the changes against the current A.I. level to make it feel more natural.
-If you are gonna check certain opponent distances then you need to exclude the condition from the Triggerall as it might conflict with your specific trigger ones.

My initial suggestion is to start simple and add conditions one at a time to see how it works. The triggeralls seem to be fine. According to code, you want him to execute it when the opponent is either standing or crouching during active match while the opponent is at a horizontal distance of 70 or above while in the middle of a state between 1000-1099.

Update: please disregard the comment about the states, you are validating the enemy's states in order to counter them. You can leave the orange code as it is.

[kai_jph]

[State -1, Stealth Dash]
type=changestate
value=1461
triggerall = var(40)
triggerall= AILevel && numenemy
triggerall= roundstate=2 && statetype!=A
triggerall= p2bodydist x>=70 && (p2statetype!=L || p2stateno=5120)
trigger1= ctrl && P2movetype = A && (P2stateNo=[1000,1099])&& Random <100
trigger2= ctrl && (p2bodydist x=[70,200]) && Random<50


-Unless he has control during states 1000-1099 he will never execute trigger1
-Can you give me the purpose of that variable? Is it an A.I. check?
-Low chances of A.I. execution intended? You could also validate the changes against the current A.I. level to make it feel more natural.
-If you are gonna check certain opponent distances then you need to exclude the condition from the Triggerall as it might conflict with your specific trigger ones.

My initial suggestion is to start simple and add condition one at a time to see how it works. The triggeralls seem to be fine. According to code, you want him to execute it when the opponent is either standing or crouching during active match while the opponent is at a horizontal distance of 70 or above while in the middle of a state between 1000-1099.

Oh sorry this char is a 2 in one by trololo
Var(40) is for nash mode

hmm I need to correct my code for the orange section and red.

The thing is he executes the stealth dash but not the skills that follow (justice Shell/corridor)

[Moldredd]

Another thing worth checking out is that if your initial move puts you into a flying state then none of the trigger will execute as you are limiting that StateType in your triggerall. I'm not familiar with the move so if this is not the case then please disregard this.


UPDATE: edited my first post. Ignore my orange suggestions.

UPDATE2: The A.I. code is lacking the condition related to executing while in your desired state.

[kai_jph]

The toon just dashes forward (no "y" entries) to opponent.

With the ai entries into the .cmd file the 2 skills (Justice Corridor/shell) follow perfect from the dash skill but not with the changestate in the .st file in op.
I copied it from another character (Gouken) that worked

The reason why I made the random low is other wise he spams its and chain combos to death.

[Moldredd]

Gotcha. I'm having a headache right now and apologies if I'm misunderstanding you.

You want the character to execute the moves out of the Stealth Dash?

If so just add this line to the Justice Shell and Justice Corridor states:

trigger3=AILevel&&time>=8&&(P2bodydist x<=50)&&(enemynear,statetype!=A)&&StateNo=1461&&ra ndom<=550

Let me know if this fixes it. If it does don't forget to tweak the random number to your liking.

[kai_jph]

Gotcha. I'm having a headache right now and apologies if I'm misunderstanding you.

No need to apologize, I really appreciate your help

You want the character to execute the moves out of the Stealth Dash?

Yes

If so just add this line to the Justice Shell and Justice Corridor states:

trigger3=AILevel&&time>=8&&(P2bodydist x<=50)&&(enemynear,statetype!=A)&&StateNo=1461&&ra ndom<=550

Let me know if this fixes it. If it does don't forget to tweak the random number to your liking.

That's my dilemma .
I did do something like that and it works. But other characters don't and put it in the .st file only.

[Moldredd]

No need to apologize, I really appreciate your help

That's my dilemma .
I did do something like that and it works. But other characters don't and put it in the .st file only.

Could you elaborate on the other characters' issue? Maybe I could help.

[kai_jph]

Could you elaborate on the other characters' issue? Maybe I could help.

If you take gouken for example
he does a leap move (Hyaki shu) that can link into other moves
His st file ends with this

[State 1400, Change]
type=ChangeState
triggerall=animelemtime(8)>=0&&numenemy
trigger1=!AILevel&&((command="x"&&command="y")|(co mmand="x"&&command="z")|(command="y"&&command="z") )
trigger2=AILevel&&(P2bodydist x<=35)&&(enemynear,statetype=S)&&random<=250
value=1430
[State 1400, Change]
type=ChangeState
triggerall=animelemtime(8)>=0&&numenemy
trigger1=!AILevel&&(command="x"|command="y"|comman d="z")
trigger2=AILevel&&(enemynear,Movetype=A)&&(P2bodyd ist x<=35)&&random<=200
value=1410
[State 1400, Change]
type=ChangeState
triggerall=animelemtime(8)>=0&&numenemy
trigger1=!AILevel&&(command="a"|command="b"|comman d="c")
trigger2=AILevel&&(P2bodydist x<=35)&&random<=300
value=1420

Those 3 states are not in his .cmd file in the AI section (just the Hyaki shu move) but they still work.

I'm just curious how or if the AI is programmed in another file maybe

[Moldredd]

As long as those states exist in his CNS files then it should be fine. These codes are just state callers, they are calling the corresponding states from the CNS file (1410, 1420, 1430). If they exist there then it should work as usual but the moment they are absent from the CNS files, you will be greeted by a nice debug error message in your screen and your character will get stuck in limbo.

[mulambo]

beside the yellow-on-white "finger-in-the-eye" font usage, I'd say it writes "dilemma", not "dillema"

I'm just curious how or if the AI is programmed in another file maybe

usually all files are listed in the .DEF file, pretty obvious.
If the AI doesn't trigger them, it means the code of the [State -1] is too complex or it doesn't just check the random values (so you probably have to wait until the CPU actually performs x, y or z during the first state).
Probably you have to make the ChangeState in the first state simpler (without all those strange values, but only "command" triggers and without the "random" factor if you want it to be executed no matter what).
Example:


[State 1461, Justice Corridor]
type=ChangeState
trigger1= time > 20 ; set this the time lapse in which the command can be executed
trigger1= command = "x"
value=1195

[State 1461, Justice Shell]
type=ChangeState
triggerall= time > 20 ; set this the time lapse in which the command can be executed
trigger1= command = "y" ; or any other
trigger2= command = "z" ; or any other
value=1190

this way it should perform justice corridor when player presses x, and justice shell for y and z
it's up to CPU to press those buttons, I guess.
in winane's method, though, you can directly set a changestate in CMD according to random trigger and stateno trigger (in this case stateno=1461). But I guess your char doesn't use winane's method.

[kai_jph]

beside the yellow-on-white "finger-in-the-eye" font usage, I'd say it writes "dilemma", not "dillema"

Sorry My spelling is terrible

usually all files are listed in the .DEF file, pretty obvious.
If the AI doesn't trigger them, it means the code of the [State -1] is too complex or it doesn't just check the random values (so you probably have to wait until the CPU actually performs x, y or z during the first state).
Probably you have to make the ChangeState in the first state simpler (without all those strange values, but only "command" triggers and without the "random" factor if you want it to be executed no matter what).
Example:


[State 1461, Justice Corridor]
type=ChangeState
trigger1= time > 20 ; set this the time lapse in which the command can be executed
trigger1= command = "x"
value=1195

Thanks, did that and it works better now although I made the time >0. With >20 I can only hit the moves when I'm in the opp's face

Pretty much redid codes for AI and Manual in separate change states for each

- - - Updated - - -

As long as those states exist in his CNS files then it should be fine. These codes are just state callers, they are calling the corresponding states from the CNS file (1410, 1420, 1430). If they exist there then it should work as usual but the moment they are absent from the CNS files, you will be greeted by a nice debug error message in your screen and your character will get stuck in limbo.

Finally got it right.
Simplified the 1st trigger like Mulambo said and did a separate change state for manual and AI

[Moldredd]

Yeah, making the triggers simple and building up from there tends to be the right way most of the time. Hence, the reason of me suggesting on it on my first post.

Glad you found the solution to the problem.

[kai_jph]

Yeah, making the triggers simple and building up from there tends to be the right way most of the time. Hence, the reason of me suggesting on it on my first post.

Glad you found the solution to the problem.

Thanks

Its a bad habit of mine IRL. I always start complicated and fix when it doesn't work instead of the other way around