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    Default Re: 1.1 or 1.0?

    i use 1.0 because i use crossover and 1.0 works but 1.1 gives errors unless if i use smash mod

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    Default Re: 1.1 or 1.0?

    1.1

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    Default Re: 1.1 or 1.0?

    Previously 1.1, but now 1.0 for better stability/performance.

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    Default Re: 1.1 or 1.0?

    Both of them.


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    Default Re: 1.1 or 1.0?

    I'd say 1.1, but both are equally fine in my opinion.

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    Default Re: 1.1 or 1.0?

    i like 1.1 more because theres more in it, some stuff might messed up but its still playable

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    Default Re: 1.1 or 1.0?

    1.1 since I never really had any bugs or problems with it

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    Default Re: 1.1 or 1.0?

    I usually stick with 1.0 because that's what I've started with, but 1.1 has its zoom feature tho.

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    Default Re: 1.1 or 1.0?

    For me its 1.1 all the way, i only use 1.0 and winmugen to fix characters bugs and convert them from one version to another.
    The reasons a use 1.1:

    1 - Rendering engine based on OpenGL
    2 - Camera zooming
    3 - Thousands of changes and fixes over other versions.

    List of changes on 1.1:
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    I've been getting really annoyed by the zoom feature, it makes it really hard to follow the action. ESPECIALLY for sprite based stuff.

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    So don't download stages with zoom. I think I have maybe two stages with zoom, and neither are in my select.def. It looks pretty cool to see it in action in a higher resolution than what you could get in the SNK games that had it, but yeah. It's a gimmick.

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    Oh geez, it's STAGES that involves the zoom?! I thought it was a built in thing or maybe character specific? I had no idea it was by stage. Thanks for letting me know! I'll give 1.1 more of a go then.

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    Default Re: 1.1 or 1.0?

    I prefer 1.0 because i love that version!

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    Default Re: 1.1 or 1.0?

    im more of a 1.1 guy since there is more content for that version but i can see why people like 1.0 more

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    Quote Originally Posted by A x ◿ View Post
    1.1 is clearly better. 1.0 is overrated as "stability". When you have stage zooming which totally makes regular mugen look better, why stick to 1.0?
    I think I have to retract what I said at that time having done a fullgame on the 1.1 beta engine in 2020....

    That stability is kinda important for complete playthrough fullgame experiences. The 1.1 version tends to crash A LOT! Possibly an F.U. by elecbyte seeing as how the Beta improved version came out right after the 1.1 alpha leak at the time. So it's like they gave us the newest version with more features but with the condition that it easily crashes easily and every so often.



    I will say that 1.1 beta lets you use non-pallete any image type I think? with types like .png and maybe .jpg? Not sure I'm remembering that right?
    But basically it means it's easier to make a character because you can make one without working out all the technical stuff to make it run whereas in the older versions they had to be .pcx files or .bmp files with color palletes and junk which is an additional learning curve for new creators and takes extra time to do.

    The other upside is 1.1 Beta lets you use any font type such as the ones for windows. Before you would have to make one out of an .sff file and create it by hand which was a pain in the ***.

    I believe also 1.1 beta lets you change font behavior with coding so you can stretch and rotate words and images around which wasn't allowable before.

    1.1 is easier to work on in my opinion than 1.0 so not exactly sure where I'm standing on this whole issue. I guess it's ultimately preference and what kind of gaming experience you're looking for. I still use winmugen myself. The only real advantage I see 1.0 having is that 1.1 stage zooming can sorta ruin the scaling visuals as most creators made characters not really looking at zooming out being a big issue for fxs going out of boundaries like how a projectile can get cut off or abruptly end because it wasn't intended to ever go out that far in a zoomed out stage. Then again you can always just turn off stage zooming in 1.1.

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    Default Re: 1.1 or 1.0?

    1.0 is the most stable version since it introduced new SCTRLS/Triggers/parameters to the engine & it's the official WinMUGEN Elecbyte just made.

    changes:
    New SCTRLS RemapPal/VictoryQuote added
    New triggers: AILevel/Cond/Const480p/Const720p/Const1280p/GameWidth/GameHeight/StageVar added
    some bugs fixed
    parameter "volume" is now "volumescale"
    new parameters added for compatibility purpose.
    Allegro adapted into SDL (still works in low-end PCs)

    1.1:
    Added RGB colors, you can now add any PNG etc image file without problem
    Changed SDL to OpenGL (only works in 64bit PCs)
    New undocumented SCTRL "Zoom" added
    new parameters added
    new triggers: BackEdge/FrontEdge/LeftEdge/RightEdge/TopEdge/BottomEdge/ScreenHeight/ScreenWidth/CameraPos/CameraZoom added
    some parameters changed for compatibility purpose
    new stage parameters such as XShear
    animated parallax/zoom features.
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    Speaking of 1.0 and 1.1
    what its the diferense between those two?

    i REALLY want to know what are the diferences

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    Default Re: 1.1 or 1.0?

    Sorry for a late answer by the way.

    Yes, 1.1 is definitely worth it, but if your PC is maybe not good enough, then you can continue using 1.0 until you upgrade. You won't be disappointed, 1.1 is pretty awesome because it has zoom and some 3D stages (though from what i remember, i used to have some 3D stages in 1.0 too but not many as far as i know) and 1.1 only stages. That's my opinion though, i am unreliable for this kind of stuff since i'm a 1.0 noob.
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    Default Re: 1.1 or 1.0?

    I like 1.1

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    Default Re: 1.1 or 1.0?

    It's 1.1 from the beginning, and it won't change in the future!

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